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What Can SilTek contribute to the Karuzari (Spoilers 2:12)

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So i was thinking what could SilTek actually contribute the Karuzari?

Immediately
- Munitions,
- Support Craft,
- Fighters,
- Small Arms and and Personal Armor,
- Better Research Facilities.

Medium Term
- Gunships (After reworking a Small Cargo ship production line and using AI assisted CAD Software to incorporate New technologies, I'd kind of like it if the a new gunship had the same look as the Aurora + Captain Nash needs a new ship)
- Aurora Refit (full incorporated AI, upgrade shields, upgrade wepaons, improves power distribution.)

Long term
- I don't think SilTek has the ability or desire to reproduces the Aurora or similar capital ships in their home system, but thy could invest in another systems shipyard and provide improved production infrastructure.
- Support rebuilding worlds

your thoughts?

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SilTek could definitely start producing the items you listed immediately and probably with a fair number of upgrades to the existing technology of the Alliance. Given the specifications, they could probably even begin ZPED production since the Karuzari destroyed the Takaran production facility.

Miniaturized Aurora-style gunships would be interesting with integrated AIs and automation to reduce crew sizes, but so would an upscaled Aurora-style escort vessel. Something the size of a frigate maybe, though Episode 12 doesn't describe anything like a shipyard at SilTek (whether in orbit of SilTek or on an asteroid elsewhere in the system).

Once the Dushan are defeated, I think Takara and Corinar will want to contract with SilTek to modernize their worlds, and Takara will probably want to replace the shipyard that the Alliance destroyed.

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I would be very surprised if Siltek didn't have a very large underground construction facility, possibly large enough to produce cobra sized gunships as fast as the facility Scott stole his set from. in fact I wouldn't be surprised if they could also build light cruisers (they do build their own cargoships) I just dont think they have the crews or officers for those kinds of ships. this is definitely a case of introduce one Allie to another, ships and tech from one, officers and crew from another - corinari or Orswellan

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You think Siltek has the technology to build Large ships on a plants service and be able to take off?

I Can see them having some sort of ship yard, where they build large cargo ships. but it would take time to re-purpose it to reproduce the Aurora. And doing so may put a bigger target on their world than they desire.

Crews are need, Of Course you have Captain Nash who needs a new ship, and he has experience training gunship crews.

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With gravlift systems Siltek could produce ships underground. 

 

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@paul-f i could see that happening with gunships at first and when, then scaling up, Couple of Destroyers, then more, i suppose it depends on if they have any existing facilities in space. 

 

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The Aurora is a cruiser/carrier. I think you could build gunship's like the cobra's, like the Sol Allinace did and launch them into space with a railed/jump system. if Siltek were as I suspect building and launching light cargo ships from facilities underground then it would make sense that they could repurpose those to build conrad's. and Captain Nash has trained complete noobs to fly the Cobra before. And Gil still has a cobra, he could back stop the training with his crews even if Nash's are down for medical reasons.

I think that the pacing of the part 2 story however has been much quicker then the original part and so I rule out new construction being a viable addition by the end of 2.15 refitted ships maybe. I think we would all like a sounding off of what ships are available though. because it sounds to me as If i have completely forgotten...

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I agree that SilTek could build more Cobra gunships, but I disagree about the launch method. The Tekan tech base is more advanced than the Sol Alliance or the Karuzari Alliance. First, any Cobras built by them would likely receive at least a few upgrades such as the anti-gravity lift systems and fully integrated AI. SilTek-built Cobras could most likely simply be rolled out of their construction lines and lift into the air without the railed/jump launch system used by the Sol Alliance. Second, the Tekan VR simulation technology could be used in the training of new crews whether they're Corinari, Orswellan or Tekan. With experienced instructors like Nash and Gil and students that have completed the training like Aiden and his crew, training of new crews could proceed at an accelerated rate.

Additionally, I think SilTek will assume the role of supplier to the Karzauri. And I think the "jump-penetrator" missiles Abby and Deliza are designing using the grav drives from the Sugali fighters will be among those supplies. I have a suspicion that those missiles will play a role in the final defeat of the Dushan as well as the Jung who are closing in on Earth.

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good points, and as the siltek people are so advanced they may also be able to build the zpd's that a growing fleet would need by backward engineering them or by building from blueprint as per plans I assume Deliza should have had?

Considering the anti gravity tech on offer, Gunships and Destroyers could be built underground and then launched by anti grav / jump to orbit. although missile boats seem to already be on hand thanks to the Rakuen.

I imagine that the Siltek production lines could have modules built and stockpiled until they were needed to install into a ship build pipeline was set up. I also imagine that they could sell standard jump missiles and standard jump missile defense systems alone with their usual defensive systems to raise the additional funds to pay for the new construction. down the line cruisers and battleships aren't out of the question either - they would however take a long time to build and laying the keel now for a part 3 or 4 new ship wouldn't be a waste of time. imagine launching a dreadnough from beneath a small mountain...

I think that the KA need to bring its fleet in for a defensive refit at some point. and it would make sense to do it quickly before the dushan figure out they are there - which they shouldn't in the short term... being so far away.

the Jung use different shields, the dushan may have a different shield all together from the Jung. that could be embarrassing down the line too. an entire line of missiles made redundant from a change in shield frequency...

I'm very curious to know what is happening at earth... with Scott's sister on the mend it might be time to find out???

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More than likely the Tekans will begin producing ZPEDs once they've acquired the designs from the Karuzari. With the destruction of the Takaran production facility in Rama, SilTek would be in a position to corner the market on new ZPED production until such time as another supplier could establish itself and build the necessary production infrastructure to challenge their position. I think that kind of situation would interest a corporate-style civil government like SilTek. Additionally they have at least one customer ready to receive deliver: the Karuzari themselves. So either through purchasing the designs from Deliza or partnering with her and Ranni Enterprises, the Tekans will probably begin ZPED production.

The Rakuen missile boats are present, but like the Cobras and the Aurora herself they could benefit from Tekan upgrades. The Tekans could add the anti-gravity lift systems and fully integrated AI again, but also a degree of automation that could lead to reduced crew sizes. For example, the Aurora at 1.5 kilometers in length requires a crew of 300 to operate properly. Now, add in the fully integrated AI and the automation we witnessed in the most recent episode. With the AI and automation, you could conceivable alleviate high crew requirements. Imagine the Aurora only requiring a 150 or as low as a 100 crew instead of 300. With the casualties the Aurora suffered last Dushan attack on Rakuen, reducing her crew requirements would be advantageous to the Karuzari.

The Jung's shields are actually weaker and less advanced than the Dusahn's shields. As the Alliance was easily able to jump in and out of them. The grav-penetrator missiles shouldn't have an issue passing through them.

A defensive refit on the Karuzari fleet would make since, but the Aurora would have priority in that case. Her damage was extensive and she'll need to be repaired while simultaneously being able to act if case of Dusahn attack.

The SilTek production lines could begin to produce "off the shelf" components and modules for new ship designs, but you're correct that they'll most likely begin to production standard jump missiles and launchers too. Orswella could use such a system and the missiles for it to use and both Rakuen and her sister world could use more missiles in their inventory. New ships would take time to design, construction, launch, and test before sending them into service. I am curious to know what kind of ship those would be, though. Maybe something based on the Aurora.

As for Earth, we know from the episode before last that the Jung were on their way there with at least three battle platforms and a small fleet of other ships. We'll have to see where Ryk goes with the story. There are only 4 more episodes in Part II and so far the pace hasn't been the same as with Part I which was 6 episodes of war against the Ta'kar Empire and 9 episodes of war against the Jung.

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Juan C Valentin
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Aside from all the ideas everyone has posted; the story seems to highlight their need to build combat power at a rate that has been impossible until now. Even so, the production of a bigger fleet may take some time.

In the meantime, I think having nexgen Stealth Jump KKVs, hyper-jump (quantum) comm drones for real time comms over vast distances (command and control during simultaneous battles), Synthetic Combat Forces (cybernetic and/or AI-enabled soldiers, malicious code, ect..), long-jump capable battle platforms, and some form of "hunter-killer" drones (think of a small version of the terminator HK drone) to facilitate ground forces operations. All these things might provide them the flexibility to expand/defend their footprint across all alliance sectors while being able to take the fight to the all their enemies may be the tech they need in the immediate future.

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Do Siltek have a real time jump detection system? that allows them to pin point inbound jumps as that would be very handy in jump fights! or did they just seed santuary's 1 light hour, 2 light hour etc zones with jump drones?

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Juan C Valentin
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Aurora Tech upgrade... maybe even a Celestia 2.0 down the road.

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I would be very happy to give Cam another Celestia. I feel like she should have a ship of her own again. having her be xo of (of for years captain) of someone else's ship is a waste... love her as the xo, love it when she steps up to put the bad guys down, but she needs to do so from her own ship. I recon that's down the road a ways though. unless she gets bumped to admiral maybe? she has more battle overwatch experience then most. if Siltek do build a Celestia, she is very much deserving!!!

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