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What is in the Darvano System

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(@chrisnh67)
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I forgot all about the Yamaro.

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(@sno-duc)
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Which would be listed as "MIA presumed destroyed" in the fleet records.
Of course Tug knows different. He can send a capital ship, without getting into political mess with the Lords.

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(@peacecraft)
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It's a transformer! Go Autobots.

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(@christh)
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" so you have a pressurized micro gravity shipyard" is the exact description of the Yamaro currently

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 Jim
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Well, I think whatever it is, it appears on the right hand side of the current home page to this site.

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(@christh)
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that is the orbiting assembly platform the aurora and celestia were built, in high earth orbit before it was destroyed by the jung.

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(@siggie)
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I dont think that a political victory is a necessity, what is needed is to show that the Jung are a threat to everyone including the cluster rather than just Earth's boogie man. If Earth discovered the jump drive it means that sooner or later the Jung will too, either through research or capture. The age old question of what is it in for me should be asked by the cluster and in this case the answer is fighting the enemy while they are still unable to reach them. Fight from a position of strength or fight from a position of weakness.

As for the jump drive, it is a greater strategic weapon than it is a tactical weapon. Meaning that it gives the alliance chance at victory with only a fraction of the fleet the enemy possess, they can hit individual systems with their entire force once it is built up while the enemy can only amass only a fraction of its forces in any one place. Once they(The alliance) find the Jung home world they should be able to take down their industrial infrastructure while keeping their own infrastructure safe because after all Earth is at this point has no positive impact industry wise.

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(@ericnay)
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Perhaps it is more that the PC doesn't have enough ties to Earth. Maybe they might like the Jung better after all. Like Americans in 1913 - The Huns aren't that bad, why antagonize them? And if we hadn't fought them in 1917, maybe we wouldn't have fought them in 1942? Certainly there was a large enough German-American community here...

Just sayin. 🙂

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 Mor
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As for the jump drive, it is a greater strategic weapon than it is a tactical weapon. Meaning that it gives the alliance chance at victory with only a fraction of the fleet the enemy possess, they can hit individual systems with their entire force once it is built up while the enemy can only amass only a fraction of its forces in any one place.

Exactly. I am thinking strategic bombing of ww2, Aurora alone can reduce the Jung industrial capacity in space with few blitz attack. As far as I know(book 7) the Jung don't have shields nor fast communications, so they can jump from plant to plant lunching nukes at their orbital platforms sending them decades back across the map and into total chaos.

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(@siggie)
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Perhaps it is more that the PC doesn’t have enough ties to Earth. Maybe they might like the Jung better after all. Like Americans in 1913 – The Huns aren’t that bad, why antagonize them? And if we hadn’t fought them in 1917, maybe we wouldn’t have fought them in 1942? Certainly there was a large enough German-American community here…

Just sayin. :-)

It is not about having ties or not, it is about the Jung knowing that the PC exists and also knowing that the Jump drive is in fact not only a possibility but a reality. If the Jung are not defeated on their home turf BEFORE they get a hold of the jump drive then the war will be lost and they will not care if the PC was an ally of earth, neutral or potential Jung ally they will just go and take over the PC one by one.

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The amazing thing about humans (and this may be why we have survived as long as we have) is that we are capable of convincing ourselves that what we want to be true is IN FACT true. This is commonly referred to as denial.

So it's not that unbelievable that the leaders of the PC do not believe that the Jung are a threat to them, or at least will not be soon enough that they need to take drastic action now.

In fact, I find it even more believable that they would be hesitant to provide aid, than that they would jump on the war bandwagon...especially after having just been through a major change in their own political and economic infrastructure.

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(@swordedge)
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It makes me wonder how long before the alliance starts a serious survey of just where all humanity went. Even with jump ships, that will take a while. Since they know for a fact that their are dangerous people out there, they know to keep their distance from planets. I can see a nice debate on how to conduct the badly needed survey.

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(@siggie)
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The amazing thing about humans (and this may be why we have survived as long as we have) is that we are capable of convincing ourselves that what we want to be true is IN FACT true. This is commonly referred to as denial.

So it’s not that unbelievable that the leaders of the PC do not believe that the Jung are a threat to them, or at least will not be soon enough that they need to take drastic action now.

In fact, I find it even more believable that they would be hesitant to provide aid, than that they would jump on the war bandwagon…especially after having just been through a major change in their own political and economic infrastructure.

Everything you say is true, but the situation still stands that Prince Casimir has given "democracy" back to the people of his world but at the same time what he has given he can still take away if the proper motivation is presented. If we are talking about honouring their commitments to the alliance maybe not but if he were to look at it as survival not only for his people but the people they oppressed for so long he might be inclined to take a more direct approach to leading his people. Prince Casimir still has access to Ghatazhak units if the need should arise and if he believes that the threat is real enough to warrant such a drastic step.

The situation for Aurora and the rest of the units attached to her is simple, they need to find a base, preferably a habitable planet close enough to the Jung to be used a base but far enough that it is out of reach for them. After this is done the aid from the PC should in effect start building up a supply and repair base in order to protect Earth and Tanna as well as stage reconnaissance operations and then raids in to Jung territory so ultimately the aid that is required is not tremendous drain on the resources of the PC as a whole or Takara in particular. Reconnaissance and the build up of combat power as well as logistics over a period of a few months to a year in order to gather Intelligence and build up your strength followed by raids on their shipyards to prevent or delay the construction of new warships by the Jung should in the end suffice for the immediate future.

A few small warships along with a few ships capable of acting as carriers supported by fighters and sufficient Ghatazhak reinforcements should be able to give tremendous increase to the combat power Aurora and its battle group. Add to that some industrial aid to set up ship yards to repair the ships and some logistics support should be enough.

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(@swordedge)
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Make new hollow asteroid bases, move those around as needed. Lotsa work but there are billions of people on each planet.

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(@siggie)
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Make new hollow asteroid bases, move those around as needed. Lotsa work but there are billions of people on each planet.

I would think making asteroids hollow would take more than just people. What would suffice is a base well hidden that is also far away from the enemy. The Jung can't hit them if they don't know where the base is and even if they knew where the base is they wont be able to d anything about it. Ideally an inhabitable planet would be ideal, but if push comes to shove anything would do as long as it could be used as a staging ground.

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