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Episode 13: Discussion and Speculation

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(@four-islands)
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Sorry dude, She Dead. Pretty sure either the Governor of the World (Eli) or President of NAU (Dayton) would have known if she survived.

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(@ericnay)
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She's the Jung Leader, to be revealed in Episode 15. 😉

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(@long-rider)
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Sorry dude, She Dead. Pretty sure either the Governor of the World (Eli) or President of NAU (Dayton) would have known if she survived.

Is she dead ? It has been my experience that trying to ID a burnt mangled body is hard enough without being in the middle a war/invasion. Given the fact that the ship went down in the middle of nowhere in the middle the invasion and forces probably didn't get on scene right away. A replacement body would have been readily available. A sample of the real dna could've been provided. Dead or alive/spy or not. Time will tell.

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(@ericnay)
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Been re-reading book 3. Looks like Ryk setup a possible love interest for Nathan, called "Cassandra Evans". Do a quick search and you'll see the chemistry is there. Wonder if Ryk will use this one?

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(@four-islands)
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She's civilian, so that's not a military issue... does the alliance have problems with relationships among its members? I mean If a Captain and a Lieutenant Commander on the same ship were to repeat founders day, would that be an frowned upon?

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(@eagleone55)
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Yes that is frowned upon.
I would love to see the PC nobles get their butts kicked up between their ears!!! I just hope Tug does that.

She’s civilian, so that’s not a military issue… does the alliance have problems with relationships among its members? I mean If a Captain and a Lieutenant Commander on the same ship were to repeat founders day, would that be an frowned upon?

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(@goose)
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Ryk,

Mid-February works for me. The 11th works even better as I would consider it a personal birthday gift from you 😉

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(@jeff-salvatore)
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Been reading all of the posts here, some of the post makes me to believe I missed somethings... rereading E.12 it seems.

If you look at what they (TUG) did with the fighter squadrons he purchased. I would hazard a guess that the next step would to buy outdated patrol ships and destroyer styled ships. As technically Nathan has 3 scouts, the unfinished Celestial and the upgraded Aurora against the 100's if not thousands of Jung ships.

They use fighter as scouts, they have NO true fleet. I make the assumption that the worlds that Nathan had direct contact with petition to have any and all ships they may have given up when they were conquered to be upgraded and sent to Nathan fully loaded and more. But they arrive too late...

The Celestial and ALL HANDS are presumed lost when they are ambushed by a Jung Fleet...

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(@goose)
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Looking at the new artwork, I saw someone indicate that those might be KKVs. I think not. First, there is a planet in the picture and it has already been implied that we (the Alliance) will not risk missing and hitting a planet. Second, no need. If you come in unannounced and unexpected to within firing distance, an have seen the soft spots of a BP previously (which we have), a couple of well placed plasma shots would do the job nicely and cause instant (almost) cascading destruction. Sorry for the run-on sentence but I couldn't find a place to break it.

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(@four-islands)
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I do like the idea of jumping in and just laying waste with the plasma cannons... but in space its best to have shields up because of radiation, micro meteorites, space junk etc. If you have shields and are a warship, your shields automatically draw down more power when they are stressed. When you have multiple power sources you have multiple units running at low levels in case say one drops, the rest can cover the shortfall and nothing critical is effected. Seems likely that Aurora jumping in close to a Battle Platform will find its shields up, the shields will immediately draw down more power to counter the plasma charges. eventually (in seconds) turret mounted defenses will deploy to counter close in "radar" contacts and then you have to resort to Plan B: KKV um

But In anything smaller then a Battle platform ya go for it.

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(@goose)
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Aidan

Your point is understandable but I disagree. The Aurora doesn't even have sheilds. She deals with radiation via three feet of hull. I see no reason for the King ships to be any different. As for debris, it is only a problem at high velocity. Orbiting a planet would not fall into that category. I stick with my original thesis.

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(@justin)
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I dunno.

The plasma shots were red, right? We're seeing the light off the KKV with a doppler blue-shift because it's travelling toward the BP's. Plus, if you think about it, those BP's are probably far away from the planet. At 20Km in diameter, those have to be thousands of kilometers away from the atmosphere. Not to mention that they're likely fairly stationary targets. Even if they were on an orbit of thousands of KPH, you could very easily predict their location from a distance. Also the angle of the shots is not toward the planet.

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(@swordedge)
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Aidan

Your point is understandable but I disagree. The Aurora doesn’t even have sheilds. She deals with radiation via three feet of hull. I see no reason for the King ships to be any different. As for debris, it is only a problem at high velocity. Orbiting a planet would not fall into that category. I stick with my original thesis.

Debris can be a problem at ANY velocity. It is not how fast you or it is moving. It is the difference in velocity. Even the microsized stuff can be seriously bad. Open the door and boom, something 3 mm in diameter takes out your fighter. Today in orbit, debris needs to go at something like 7 km per second. A velocity of 7 km per second is enough speed for even small objects to make large dents in your hull. And the force is spread out so it does damage beyond the hole. Here is a picture of an impact

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(@goose)
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Aidan

Your point is understandable but I disagree. The Aurora doesn’t even have sheilds. She deals with radiation via three feet of hull. I see no reason for the King ships to be any different. As for debris, it is only a problem at high velocity. Orbiting a planet would not fall into that category. I stick with my original thesis.
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Debris can be a problem at ANY velocity. It is not how fast you or it is moving. It is the difference in velocity. Even the microsized stuff can be seriously bad. Open the door and boom, something 3 mm in diameter takes out your fighter. Today in orbit, debris needs to go at something like 7 km per second. A velocity of 7 km per second is enough speed for even small objects to make large dents in your hull. And the force is spread out so it does damage beyond the hole. Here is a picture of an impact

That all make a lot of sense. However, it does beg the question, how do the space shuttle and satellites survive as shields have yet to be invented?

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(@justin)
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That all make a lot of sense. However, it does beg the question, how do the space shuttle and satellites survive as shields have yet to be invented?

There's some info here on that:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/news/orbital_debris.html#.VN9sO_nF98E
http://www.space.com/792-debris-shuttle-biggest-threat.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_debris (lots of pictures here showing damage done)

Basically, we've been lucky.

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