Wow, #9 on the sellers list, not to bad.
Sticking a knife in the Majors neck. A little unhinged. A WTF moment among others. Love it but one worries about what they are becoming.
Not what they are becoming, what they always were. The biggest different is what the Alliance are allowing them to do, to complete the mission. A big part of this book has been if you are not willing to go as far as the enemy will go to complete your mission, then you have already lost the war, because they can force you to surrender.
Interestingly enough, I think they are going to already have, or are going to attempt to jump the asteroid 1000 light years. I wonder what other surprises Tug has found in the junk around PC.
Thank God for a day off. A roller coaster ride of a read. Kinda figured Tug would send help, and it was timely. Just wonder how much damage Earth suffered, and how 12 will shape up.
Good job, Ryk!
Thank God for a day off. A roller coaster ride of a read. Kinda figured Tug would send help, and it was timely. Just wonder how much damage Earth suffered, and how 12 will shape up.
Good job, Ryk!
Not really the forum for it, but I'm pretty certain that Ep 12 will have a quick battle with the battle platform in Alpha Centari. Their tactic works great, but if the enemy is able to prepare for it, they could lose more people than they can afford. Also, if they could quickly disable as many ships in the core worlds as possible, it would really make a dent in the Jung's ability to mount an attack on Earth in the near future. Not much left of Earth currently, and they need a break from the relentless attacks.
It also makes you wonder what is left on Earth that is still work able. If most of the cities and infrastructure has been destroyed, the only places that would be safe would be the ones that ran for the hills during the call for evacuation.
but don't forget that ship graveyard had thousands of falcons, and now there is more time to refit more of them and get the asteroid shipyard to sol sector when enough mass can be cancelled. and the parliament cant really bitch about making old outdated fighters refitted since it wont take away from current takara defenses
and that major was a pansy anyhow and a stupid one after tells already told him he had two choices
I would send a zped com drone with another request for a those ghatazhak in stasis. takara doesn't need them and they would have fun taking the jung worlds out, not to mention telles would do good as a major with a few lieutenants and two captains under him to reinforce the ghatazhak platoons
I'm guessing we'll see more Ghatazhak as part of the allied war effort...think Ryk may have tipped his had with Telles' "we don't want to rejoin Takaran society" comment. Frankly, I think that's a good thing, that they don't want back in part of it. They'd feel like outsiders from day 1, and everyone they see would be reminders of how they were used as weapons of fear against their own. Against the Jung, they have the opportunity to be warriors in a real war against an enemy who refuses to surrender (except for that small group in Miami).
[quote=2753Interestingly enough, I think they are going to already have, or are going to attempt to jump the asteroid 1000 light years. I wonder what other surprises Tug has found in the junk around PC.
I'm thinking this is the case as well. I'm not sure if it's practical to make it as capable as a Jung battle platform, but a mobile shipyard that big would be rather useful. Another thing to consider is that system had a fair number of hollowed out asteroids if I recall right and it didn't take long to convert one of them into a base and thus it might not be too difficult to convert each of them into mobile bases. I also imagine that the material wealth gained from hollowing out an large asteroid might be enough to cover the costs of fitting it out into a mobile base especially if a good amount of the hollowed out material is used. Though, I don't recall offhand how long it took to hollow them out (if it was said), so it may be of limited use in that respect beyond the ones that are already available. Of course, that also likely applies to the Jung, but without a jump drive it takes a lot longer for them to bring them to the front lines. Thus, the advantage will go to the Alliance for now at least. Then again, the Jung have more systems so they could theoretically out build the Alliance in terms of outfitted asteroids. Although, it seems like battle platforms would only be built close to the Jung homeworld, so while they could they probably won't use that advantage at least not for a while yet.
I finished episode 11 last night and I should say that I loved it. Pure adrenaline. Thanks Mr. Brown!
Interestingly enough, I think they are going to already have, or are going to attempt to jump the asteroid 1000 light years. I wonder what other surprises Tug has found in the junk around PC.
Yes Apoc I think the same specially when Dumar says they will reduce the asteroids mass for their purposes. Well IMO reducing the asteroid mass means it'll be easier to move it and installing ZPEDs large enough to fast recharge the capacitors for the jump drive and installing the emitters in the asteroid surface makes the asteroid a moveable platform or shipyard ready to be used and send to Earth.
Nuclearman, If I recall correctly, it takes 2 and a half year to hollow an asteroid (I'll search that info to be sure). Another point is that there are two asteroid bases The one the Aurora used and the one that was used for the Yamaro, which makes me question if the Yamaro was rebuild and refitted or not (A nice ship to be sent to Earth with he Asteroid).
Well I think that for all purposes Mr. Brown finished with the mystery of the Jungs origin. They are from many origins and their name is from the Captain of the first colony ship that started their ways of life as raiders.
“They are of no particular descent , Captain,” Garrett corrected. “They are called Jung simply because it was the last name of the man who did what was necessary to save the original colonists. (Kindle Locations 4717-4719).
As I could understand to send more Ghatazhak to Earth depends on the approval of the the Takarans security committee. I hope they let Tug send the rest of them with some more fabricators, scientists, pilots and tech personnel.
Although, it seems like battle platforms would only be built close to the Jung homeworld, so while they could they probably won’t use that advantage at least not for a while yet.
I'm not sure they build their platforms only near their homeworld, as Garret states in ep. 11 I quote:
“The Jung have shipyards all over the sector. Very few of the ships built in the Jung home system venture far from their port. (Kindle Locations 5385-5387).
The Jungs probably have specialized shipyard in the sector to build these monsters.
As Earth was heavily bombarded there is very few resources they can offer to the Aurora and Celestia. I guess that in Ep. 12 we'll see one of the asteroids arriving in Sol system and being adopted as the base of the EDF. If so my guess is hat it will be parked near the asteroid belt for conceal and logistical reasons (near ore resources). We already know that Dumar bought more than 100 falcon class fighters which will be added to the fleet. He also bought other old ships the we don't yet know their purpose but I think we'll find out at the next episode and I guess we'll also find a lot of new tech in too.
I just bought the new episode and I can't wait to read it. I just wanted to say that this is my favorite series ever. Brilliant work, Ryk. You should have started writing earlier. There is no doubt that you have the skills for it.
the yamaro was made into a asteroid base. dubnyk ive got a sneaky suspicion is really crispin jung
the yamaro was made into a asteroid base. dubnyk ive got a sneaky suspicion is really crispin jung
Yes, they adapted it (Ep. 5) to be a shipyard but the hull remained. Why not reconstruct the ship?
I don't think Dubnyk is Crispin Jung but IMO he has surely met Jung and know a lot about him and where he headed to create his new colony. There is no way Mr. Brown would add a rogue character with a 1000 years old for nothing. He surely will have a decisive participation in the future of the plot.
Dubnyk = Checkov's historian?
IIRC, the full hollow-out time for asteriods in the Darvano system was closer to a decade or so, IIRC. Not that it really matters for the Sol system. While asteroid mining is a good idea - especially when you have Marcus on the job - there currently sits in the system 3 Jung battleships and a platform, or at least the wreckage of them. Unless Ryk throws something in the way so that they can't be (at least significantly) scrapped for parts, that's the low-hanging fruit right there.
Yes, sending Ghazatak to Sol would need to be approved by the Parliament, but the memory of those troops to the peoples of the Pentarus Cluster may make it a very palatable decision.
@Hans Ruopp: “The Jung have shipyards all over the sector. Very few of the ships built in the Jung home system venture far from their port. (Kindle Locations 5385-5387).
True, but they stated their most advanced ships get built there. I would also image that includes their largest ships. I would also suspect that the Jung eventually hand down (sell for rather cheap) their (very) obsolete ships to nearby systems, which eventually do the same thing thus slowly increasing the overall tech level of the Jung Empire. Another thing to consider is that just because a system has a ship yard, doesn't means it's capable of producing very large ships. Likely, the larger the ship, the fewer shipyards capable of building it. If the Jung want to prevent rebellions then they'll want to limit the number of places that actually build their largest ships. Then again, you might be right, in that case, it seems unlikely that the battle platforms are the largest mobile weapons platforms the Jung have. Either way, it looks like Captain Scott is going to need a good number of KKV's in the future.
@Chris:
I haven't exactly figured his angle, but my suspicion is that Dubnyk is connected directly somehow to the dio-digtal plague. If he didn't cause it himself, directly or indirectly, then he probably knows who did. This is based on his views on humanity.
@nuclearman: I would also suspect that the Jung eventually hand down (sell for rather cheap) their (very) obsolete ships to nearby systems, which eventually do the same thing thus slowly increasing the overall tech level of the Jung Empire.
I should disagree with you on this topic. Until now there is no evidence that the Jungs coexist with other free societies. Everything we know is that the Jungs are conquerors and they subjugate people to serve their purpose. In Ep. 7 Garrett says that they gather technology from conquered worlds (“A clever deception, but it will not hold for long,” Garrett told them. “What the Jung lack in intelligence they make up for with technology stolen from those they conquer. Brown, Ryk (2013-06-17). Ep.#7 - "The Expanse" (The Frontiers Saga) (p. 315)). That's why they want the Ark, and all the tech that existed before the plague. Space fare civilizations are a threat to them.
A big ship doesn't mean an advanced and capable ship, just a scary one. The proof is that the Aurora and a squadron of Falcon class fighters have defeated the platform and the aurora, Celestia and the Falcon destroyed 20 ships 30 days before.
