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Born of The Ashes Ep#11

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Born of The Ashes, OK this book title confuses me Ryk could you please explain the title??

I read the book, From what I am understanding nothing was Born of The Ashes. More like turned to ashes.
1 The Jung battle ship was destroyed.
2 Telles lost over half of his unit. He only has 36 of his Ghatazak left.
3 The earth was almost glassed by Nukes. It will be along time recovering. (no help there for The troops), Ok maybe people will sign up more for the EDF. BUT I think they will sign up JUST to get off of earth.
4 They lost their Representative Garrett from Tanna. He was killed on the Jung battleship (along with the Tannan Tech people).
5 They sent Abby and family to Tanna. Her Husband and children are alive. So Abby will not be able to help improve the Jump Tech.
6 The battle platform that they could have used they turned to a big Junk heap. HUH that will only be able to feed the fabricators.

The only thing that was Partially fixed was the Celestia. The Jumpdrive is now working BUT the ship is still a hull with plasma weapons (and a few slug throwers for defense) (railguns).

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 Gary
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The title is an excerpt from pop's speech location 7143. Pretty much prepairing everyone on the planet for the end.

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 Apoc
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The title is an excerpt from pop’s speech location 7143. Pretty much prepairing everyone on the planet for the end.

I think his speech was as a way to give people hope that even if they died, from their ashes, the Alliance would rise up against the Jung to avenge them. It wasn't a bad speech, to bad that most people on Earth probably wouldn't of been able to hear it since they were hiding in the hills.

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Yeah, it surely sounds to me like the people of Earth will be subsistence farming AT BEST, and they'll be in that state for generations unless someone comes to provide lots of support. Nathan could drop the Karuzari asteroid directly into Earth orbit and all that might provide to Earth would be a few tools. No food, which is what Earth needs now.

Ryk did a really great job of painting a very gloomy picture for those left alive.

I kind of wonder, would Telles ask to have his guys left behind on Earth? Let them tame the wilderness with their strength? Maybe give them Africa to build a Ghatazhak colony? How long does it take to make an actual colony? 1000 years? I think longer, but Ryk seems to think 1000 years is enough to build up populations from colony ships.

Actually, I just did some math. If the population is truly fertile, with 6 children on average, the population doubles every 30 years, and you go from 50 people to over 6 Billion in less than 750 years. I guess colonies could build up like that in 1000 years. I just think it is going to take that long for Earth to do so, at this point.

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the major cities that hadn't been destroyed were nuked yes. but now stop thinking 21 century tech. nuke strikes are easily cleaned with current tech levels. outside the cities damage is minimal, which means farms and suburban areas can be powered up and running fast.

most of the population was ordered out of the cities , therefore instead of millions being killed only minimal numbers were killed.
now we strike alpha centauri and take out the battle platform there which gives the planets there reason to join the alliance.
now we have people to replace those lost. im sure ac will have some spec ops of their own that wont mind fighting with the ghatazhak, until more can arrive from takara in their stasis crates.

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I think having the excess population alive hurts, not helps. There is only so much farmland to work, and much of the distribution system for both crops but also for fertilizers and such are gone. Bad situation. Imagine you can't got to Costco or Safeway for the next month. No more incoming food, just live on whatever you have in the cupboard. Everything will be fine for a few days, maybe a week or two. After that... ?

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Yea, did not think about that. If there are not to many millions left then they could also relocate everyone one to Tanna for a while and make it their new Main Base for a while.

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 Tom
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Awesome book, best one yet. I won't play the speculation game, I'm all in for the ride. Keep em coming Ryk, you rock.

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According to A science mag I read it takes 30 million people for the Human race to successfully survive, any lower it is possible the human race could go extinct.
Idk how many are left after the nuclear bombs went off???

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we don't know as of yet. however, the nukes are what they called tactical nukes, the direct impact zone is affected, yet the non coastal cities would still operate as normal.

the first attacks that nuked the major cities were recovered in months hence the need for the ghatazhak to take out the small scale jung backed warlords

from the time of invasion to liberation was only a few months, so the nuke clean tech would have to be very good

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 Apoc
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Considering we already have radiation clean up materials today, it wouldn't be surprising if they could completely remove the effects of a nuke in a short time. Below is what we use today to clean up radioactive particles from non-radiated surfaces.

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-05/cleaning-japans-radioactive-mess-novel-new-blue-goo

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@apocnebs I read the article that blue goo is great.

Ok guys the earth was just about out of the dark ages how would they have the cleanup for all those nukes??? It did not sound like they had gotten alot out of the data ark yet. Just a speculation on my part.

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@apocnebs I read the article that blue goo is great.

Ok guys the earth was just about out of the dark ages how would they have the cleanup for all those nukes??? It did not sound like they had gotten alot out of the data ark yet. Just a speculation on my part.

I would imagine that Takara has the tech if nothing else. More importantly, the tech is probably loaded into the Takaran fabricators, knowing that the Earth may face a situation like this, thus it's just a matter of getting the materials.

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simple reasoning, if we have anti matter and fusion reactors, then we have clean tech to fix any mishaps. they jumped 300 years worth of tech in 100 years.

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Yea, did not think about that. If there are not to many millions left then they could also relocate everyone one to Tanna for a while and make it their new Main Base for a while.

I don't think extinction would be a problem as there are still thousands of settled star system throughout the galaxy.

On other worlds, the Jung modus operandi was to come in and wreck a planet so that the remaining population could be more easily controlled and the infrastructure rebuilt for their own economic benefit. They must have the tech to clean up after their mess.

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