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Where is the Jung homeworld

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Maybe I lost that detail in ep 14, but did they get to check the computers on the captured jung ship to find where is the jung homeworld... or at least where can they hit hard? Supply lines....

I was hopping for that, I remember in previous books that they could not get any info from the Jung systems after capturing a ship... but I thought since the ship was powered down and they where quick to capture it, they might have a chance.

The captured soldiers probably do not have a clue where they are from , but even if they get a star name, constelattion or sth that might give a clue. Humans have been naming stars,well since forever, there must be some language roots on any name they give a star or constellation they can use as a clue

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Jung ships send comm drones to the nearest Battle Platform Which would be in X system as per the 1000 year War plan they had set up.
Jung Battle platforms send Special Comm drones to the Home system (these drones are the only Jung tech that record the location of the Jung Homeworld. and if incorrectly accessed they self-destruct.)

Not an easy thing to find the Jung Homeworld

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If it's even confirmed that there is Jung home world, I don't think it would be particularly relevant as a target.

Now I probably missed a few things as I'm not a particularly good reader and have an equally bad memory, but here are a few points as to my reasoning:

1. In the Jung early history the original colony was said to be poor quality and they had to raid nearby colonies (why stay there)
2. They wanted to set up their position on earth up as the (or a) central seat of power, since it's both the geographical and cultural centre of humanity (why move their seat of power if they are invested in a home world?)
3. The Jung apparently have multiple clans with some power militarily and perhaps politically, there doesn't seem to be an indication of how much power is centralized outside military rank. I would think a military government would have less use for a home world in the political sence.
4. Massive mobile star bases indicates a very mobile space fairing civilisation with heavy investment from both industry and technologically

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(@palmer)
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I was thinking the other day what if you did a detail comparisons between what the Alliances as got it is star maps and what is in the star maps of the capture Jung ships you might come across some analogies which would indicated, the Jung worlds location.

The Location some thins only know to the Admirals of the Battle Platforms, so it may be that in the star maps of the ships they have change the details of the system, star or plant so as to show it as not be inhabited or may be not even there.

Star Maps produced by the Alliance or from the ARK may still show those details. your Thoughts?

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(@darkscribe)
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A detailed comparison of Alliance and Jung navigational charts could lead to possible locations for the Jung homeworld, but you would need to access the charts stored in the navigational computers of the captured Jung ships (which are probably protected data with safeguards to prevent their being accessed by non-Jung personnel) and you would need someone that can not only translate the Jung language but that has an understanding of the coordinate system being used by the Jung. The Alliance has the former because they've seized several Jung starships (namely the battleship and frigates in the Tau Ceti system) and the latter because of the Cetians and the Tannans. With those and the assistance of a sophisticated analysis program that could convert the Jung coordinate system into the coordinate system used by the Alliance, the Alliance could create a detailed supplement to their existing navigational charts that would include the captured Jung data.

Now, that assumes that Jung Command hasn't deleted every reference to the homeworld from the charts transmitted to their ships. In that instance, comparing the converted Jung charts to the Alliance charts could create a situation where an Alliance analyst with a sharp eye and proper analysis software couldn't noticed a missing star and deduce that it's a discrepancy that could possibly be a lead to the location of the Jung homeworld.

The navigational charts in the Data Ark are out of date and haven't been updated in a millennium. Therefore, they are inaccurate. An example of that is the blackhole encountered by the Aurora on its return voyage to the Sol Sector. The Ark charts showed it as a star system. Not to mention, you would probably have to account for a thousand years of stellar drift when examining them. Once the war with the Jung has been concluded, someone will have to resurvey the areas covered by those charts.

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The Takarans used a galactic chart referenced to Takara. The Aurora had a galactic chart referenced to Earth but switched over to one referenced to the Galactic center.

It will diffinitly be interesting to see what focal point the Jung use.

As for Where Jung High command is? It seems like that has been explained in Ep14, Each BP has a set of more advanced comm drones, that have the location of Jung Command, but that the drone is protected and would self destruct if tampered with.

It should be possible to trace back a likely origin point for the Jung Homeworld based on timing reactions by different fleets arround the Jung Empire to the presents of the Alliance. ie Fleet A moved toward us at X time, Fleet B & C moved at times Y & Z all were probably issued these orders at the same time so based on reactions where the message came from can be determined. So that's what I would look for.

I do not understand how Jung people can talk about going to the home world and not have an idea of where it is, so maybe they are all conditioned to protect the secrets of the Jung Homeworld? Surely some of the Jung have come from the Homeworld, they must know where it is, they told others, its not possible to hide a planet like this without major infrastructure in place... unless were taking about nanites and other brain/conditioning techniques that the Jung have was directed at they Military of the Jung?

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I went to a Sharks v. Blackhawks game with my daughter. We flew into San Jose. At the airport, I asked a cab driver to take us to SAP Arena. It was after dark, and I was not paying attention to the road. I would not be able to tell anyone who asked where the SAP Arena was located, other than somewhere in San Jose.

Imagine you are crew on a Jung ship. You have no idea what route the ship is flying. You MIGHT know what the ship's destination is, but you wouldn't have any idea where you were at any given moment, not even by looking out the window. When you left the homeworld, you got on a shuttle and rode it up to orbit where you boarded a ship. That ship left, with you on it. If you're not the navigator, how the hell do you know what route you took or where you are?

Once a ship leaves Jung space, it does not know how to get back. That information is simply not stored in its system. Is that info stored somewhere on the ship? Possibly. Maybe only the captain's have access to it. Maybe it's an encoded storage device, and it has to have the Captain and the XO, as well as an unlock key from Jung command, just to unlock it so it can tell the ship how to get home.

Or, maybe it's only the ships that are traveling into other sectors (like Sol) that don't know the way home?

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(@four-islands)
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Its possible to narrow down the location by asking Jung people how long it took them to travel from the Homeworld to other known locations.

I would love ii if the Jung had initial deployment Troop ships that could travel at 100 Light just because it would trow off those numbers.

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