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When jessica HALO's to earth, and suit temperature.

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(@nkari)
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Im sorry ryk, I really love your books, ive spent the last week or so listening to book 1-9 and in book 9 when jessica HALOS in book 9, it is mentioned that 65 degrees celcius is lethal if exposed to it for more than a few minutes, you even have the onboard doctor telling nathan that. And sir, that is just plain wrong, my 5 year old can stand 80 degrees celcius in the sauna for 10 minutes before he has had enough and leaves the sauna without any adverse effects, and myself have been in 120 degree saunas for several minutes (mind you at 120 its is very uncomfortable, but at around 90 degrees I can spend 30 mins in there easy without getting dehydrated and at 80 degress an hour is no problem and no I am not especially conditioned to withstand that kind of heat (as the doctor claims you have to be). (Im swedish NOT finnish 😉 )

That little nitpick tho killed the whole scene for me, and a good while after that to.
Just letting you know so we dont have any future thingies like that. 😉 *winks*

Oh and on the negative scale of celcius, -20 degrees celcius is not lethal either atleast not for few hours if you have ok clothes (that is long pants, warm coat, something on your head and gloves, and ok shoes(dont have to be insulated boots). When it goes down to -40 and strong winds, then it starts to get really dangerus, at -60, you do not want to brethe the air basicly, and any exposed skin will have frostbite after an hour or so. And it gets exponentially more dangerus to be out in the cold the stronger the wind you have.
(the reason I mention this is I remember some TV show, making that misstake and it killed the show for me, since it was a "sciency" show. They basicly claimed that -20 would kill you in a few minutes..(like 3-4)). And I dont want you to make the same misstakes.. =)

Cheers mate, keep the good books coming.. =)

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 Gary
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I believe you are very wrong here.. You are referring to ambient air temp not imersion. Think of standing on the deck of a boat with the air at 4°C, you can do that all day in a light jacket. Now jump off the boat into the ocean that is 4°C and your dead inside of a matter of minutes.

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As Gary pointed out, the doctor's assessment is actually correct. Hyperthermia occurs in humid environments at around 60 celsius. Granted there are people who live in such heat day in and day out, but they have become accustomed to it. Jessica would have been spending the majority of her time in a 21 degree Celsius environment. (For going one many months.) So it is doubtful that she would survive such an increase in heat, in full immersion, for more than a few minutes, especially considering the other demands that were being placed on her body.

Now, I could have pushed it to 80 to make it more believable to some, but then it would have been less believable than others.

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(@nkari)
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Ah you mean Wet-bulb temperature wich takes into account the air humidity, if so I agree, tho I was under the impression that the air within the suit was not that saturated by jessicas sweat, but then again she was quite sweaty when she landed.. And it do explain the 8% failure of the HALOS in the suits.. =)

Hmmm.. makes sense now..
Thanks.. =)

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(@four-islands)
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Are you trying to say that 8% of the suits failed because Ghatazhak were sweating from some heat & fear? They were running 10k trice daily on the Aurora, and they have mental conditioning. If Jess could survive a drop, then a Ghatazhak would have taken out 4 terrorists and rescued a cat from a tree before even landing. And yes that cat would have been badly scolded by the heat of the armor but Ghatazhak do what they have too buddy!!!

Still if Jess came out of it that badly shook up then I'd have died in the airlock. I also imagine the 8% failure rate has more to do with orbital and ground based defenses not liking the Ghatazhak content of the planets sky's.

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